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(Dear Admin, I'd like to see responses too.)
I saw these horses and riders last May. I had been seeing armies overhead in heaven, but then they appeared on earth. I saw a pale gray horse with a friendly seeming rider in gold armor inviting me to ride with him, but I declined, choosing to ride only with Jesus. This was just in front of me, to the west. To the south I saw a red horse with a black rider (or vice versa, I didn't write it down then, and I'm not sure I remember right). I looked behind me, east and saw an emerald green horse, and north was a blue horse. These were normal sized. I wasn't confident that I wasn't imagining them. But that evening I was praying with two other saints and again felt the presence of horsemen. Brent (like a mentor to me in the Lord) said "that's right", and shortly after that my other mentor in the Lord said that the horsemen being on the earth was the prophetic word given at a conference she attended. This all was last May. Since then I've been feeling that these have been riding around and looking at us (Zechariah 1:10). Recently again even a couple times the friendly-seeming rider on the light gray horse has invited me to ride with him, and again I refuse. I dare not ride with anyone but Jesus!
Yours truly, Clare

Rev 6:2-8
2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
3. When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see."
4. Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword.
5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see." So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine."
7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see."
8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, (NKJ)

As you can see, the one on the white horse has a bow but no arrows. He looks fierce but an imposter of eternal power. He rides without definite purpose must mostly a threat without alot to back him up. He will inflict fear and confusion because that who the rider is. The red horse carries war that will increase into a great casualty count. The pale horse is death that will collect the casualties and urge those on the earth to invest death to achieve their objectives with Hades enlarging it's mouth to swallow the great collection of the dead. I believe that this will occur right before the greatest move of God. These imposters want to beat God to the harvest. I have been urged by the Holy Spirit to pray to the contrary to beat them off as too early. In place of the whip there might have been a bow ( maybe a string broke at the bottom?)
Larry Sloma

Dear Marion,
I read your vision with great interest. It would have helped to know more details, like was the size of the riders proportional to the huge size of the horses? Still, after much prayer here are my thoughts.
The rider of the white horse is definitely not Jesus, but Satan. There are several obvious reasons to support this. Comparing this horseman with that of Rev. 6, this was carrying a whip, and I think it means that he is in a hurry, driving his horse faster than usual. Differently from the one in the Bible he didn't have a bow, neither was he given a crown, seems to mean that he wanted to operate in secret, avoiding people recognizing his true identity, shown in the Bible.
The rider on the red horse in Rev. 6 was given a large sword, which you didn't see in your vision. This seems also to point to clandestine operation, like the activity of terrorists preparing to strike.
I found a bit of a puzzle that the black horse was missing, although the famine its rider represented in Rev. 6 was also part of the meaning of the pale horse.
The task of the rider named Death, of the pale horse followed by Hades in Rev. 6, was to kill by weapons, famine, plague and wild beasts.
The pale greenish color of the horse you saw, reminded me of mould, diseases caused by various fungi and also mould growing on dead bodies not buried, but left lying around for a time. This latter could happen when so many people die that they simply cannot be buried or cremated quickly enough.
The huge size of the horses seems to indicate that Satan will work with frightfully high power.
My conclusion is that your vision was another one of the Lord's warnings: get ready, because the time of the prophesied Great Tribulation is very near! Just look at what is happening all over the world and you may get a similar impression.
I am interested on what comments you and others will have.
Blessings,
John

Dear Marion,
I saw your request for some insight into your vision. No doubt you may have received other replies by now, but I’d like to share what I know about this.
It’s interesting because I have only today done the first draft print of one of my new books titled “The Realm of the Prophetic” which deals with dream and vision interpretation.
Anyhow, I am not sure of your experience in such matters, so please bear with me a little as I explain how I approach this subject.
No doubt you are aware of the various types and shadows used throughout Scripture. Bible numerics can also play a part in gaining some understanding of hitherto “hidden truths”. The whole bible is full of these things in many ways. Jesus used this principle when he spoke in parables to some, but gave clear understanding to others he deemed ready to accept it.
There are many “voices” as you know, all saying differing things, so from the outset, please let me assure you that I am by no means a novice. My conversion experience in September 1968 was similar in many ways to the conversion experience of the Apostle Paul. Since then, I’ve “been there… done that”.
Now with dream and visions certain elements may have significance. For example, a car could represent a ministry. A new car might then speak of a new ministry. An old car, an old ministry and so on.
Colours also have significance and the colour “white” has an obvious meaning of purity and the like.
What I do in this part of my ministry is to print the document and put it aside. There’s no hurry to “get” an immediate answer. Many try to force issues and I refuse to. My policy is that of, “If the Lord is silent, then so am I”. Even if some immediate understanding comes, I still apply these principles.
I printed out your message the other day, looked at it and immediately saw a picture.
This is how I see it. I hope it blesses and encourages you.
Horses in dream/vision interpretation often speak of a move or work of God. We measure the effective power of a car engine in horsepower, so the things of the natural can then be used to depict the things in the spiritual.
Imagine the power and strength of a horse then think of that as perhaps signifying the power of the Holy Spirit in such a move.
Now, I do not think there is any reference at all to the passages in the book of Revelation. Neither in your instance do I think it is symbolic of any counterfeit. I tend to think that any attempt of a counterfeit would most likely have been represented by a black horse.
White represents purity and cleanliness, so I think your white horse is “pure”… whiter than snow etc.
The red colour often speaks of blood. I see elements like forgiveness and justification there. On the other hand, the colour red may speak of warfare, or even of lack of peace.
Green paints a picture of fruitfulness and richness. I think of green leaves and green trees in comparison to dead and dried foliage, which would then be brownish in colour. The paleness, is interesting and I think it refers to a change, like you’d see a change in season when spring brings new growth that might stem from autumn dieback and so on. The colour is coming into the foliage. Sometimes a pale colour indicates death or partial lifelessness, but the green hue is a good sign. Perhaps there is something that was dead but is being brought to life.
What is interesting is the impact the size of the horses had on you. That is significant. It represents strength and power… possibly more than “normal”.
The significance of the reins is not as transparent to me. This is personal opinion here, but I think it is appropriate. Most of us are right handed. Most of our strength is in the right hand. Reins are used to steer and control a horse.
I wondered what it was that the rider was doing as he passed you and as I read your description again, I had an image of him changing his grip of the reins and the whip. If you can recall this, you may be able to affirm it. My understanding is that he placed the whip in the same hand he was holding the reins with. I hope I am right!
If so, then you saw a change from “driving” and controlling this thing, to sitting on and going for the ride. No effort… no forcing the issue… just holding on and being carried along on it.
Perhaps you are coming into a new dimension, hence the changes in the horses and if I’m right, no longer “holding on and steering with one hand whilst whipping up the motion with the other. Notice the order of the horses. Coming progressively from the left, there is new growth. The old things are being replaced with something fresh and new. Then there is the blood on it’s right hand… a cleansing, forgiveness and increased justification and then… a pure white horse. Was that white horse closer to you than the others?
There’s powerful stuff there.
For what it is worth. I hope this helps. I’d appreciate any feedback because this interests me.
With love,
Robert

As I am sure you are aware, there is almost a one to one correlation between the evens described in Matthew 24 and the seals. If so, the white horse represents "false Christs."
This being the case, could the white horse be Islam?
God bless,
Cliff
Richmond, VA

My name is Mike. A friend of mine forward this e-mail to me. I am also interested in riders on horses. Do you think Sept 11 was the start of the rider because right now the Arab world is proclaiming Osama bin Ladin as the Hero of the Muslins. He is gathering wide spread support from all the clerics. He is the exact opposite of Jesus Christ. You also never describe the rider on the horse that could also be important. His wide spread support could topple other Muslim governments and put him over there rulers.

Hi Pastor Lundy,
My name is Kathie from Michigan. I WAS born again 20 yrs ago, baptized in the Holy Spirit 8 years ago. I am interested in visions and dreams very much. Have a mandate from God to write a book about symbols used by the Holy Spirit. Have learned much in last 8 years. Lots more to learn.

Do you have many visions or dreams from God? Do you understand them? Ever dreamed/ had visions of horses before? However I will ask you to consider this:

Holding the reins could mean reigning or ruling, or controlling (IN CONTROL).

Holding the whip and not using it could mean restraint. In scripture (Rev. 6) there were 4 horses, the white one could be waiting for the BLACK horse to come. Was the pale horse dappled? What shade of green? colors can be very packed with meaning.

CONSIDER-ORDER OF APPEARANCE OF HORSES:
ZECH. 6: RED, BLACK, WHITE, BAY
REV.6: WHITE,RED, BLACK, PALE
YOU SAW: WHITE, RED, PALE

TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURE, WE COMPARE SCRIPTURE WITH SCRIPTURE.
ZECH. 6:5 SAYS THE HORSES ARE ANGELS OR SPIRITS SENT FROM BEFORE GOD'S THRONE AND REV. 6 SAYS FOR JUDGEMENT. SEEMS TO RULE OUT DEVILS WHO WERE LONG AGO CAST OUT OF HEAVEN.
REV.6 SAYS WHAT THE JUDGEMENTS ARE;
WHITE = CONQUEROR-KING WITH BOW
RED= WAR
BLACK= FAMINE
PALE= DEATH

SO TO NOW UNDERSTAND YOUR VISION IN LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE CONSIDER:
A LITTLE WAYS OFF= COMING SOON
FURTHER AWAY=COMING LATER
HORSES LINING UP=ORDER OF WHAT JUDGEMENTS ARE COMING AND WHEN WHITE HORSE WENT PAST YOU=THIS HAS PASSED
SEEMS THIS WOULD INDICATE A VERY LARGE KING CONQUEROR HAS COME FIRST,
YET IN YOUR VISION AS THE MISSING HORSE.
FURTHER THINK: IS THIS FOR AMERICA? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE CURRENT
WAR ON TERRORISM WILL TURN INTO A HUGE WAR? ARE THESE THEN JUDGEMENTS SENT BY GOD FOR OUR NATIONAL SINS? FAMINE NOT HERE YET IN THIS COUNTRY.
THE RESTRAINT AND CONTROL SYMBOLS MEAN GOD HAS THESE ANGELS UNDER HIS CONTROL RIGHT NOW, BUT IF UNLEASHED FULLY, OH MY! PRAY, TEST, SEEK, GOD WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT MEANS. WE NEED MUCH INTERCESSION AND REPENTANCE IN BEHALF OF OUR NATION. I BELIEVE A BABYLON SPIRIT IS ON THIS NATION AND GOD IS JUDGING US.
MANY BLESSINGS AS YOU SEEK HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART,
KATHIE

Dear Marion,
I thought of your post regarding the horses as I was reading in Zechariah 1 v.8 - there it talks about red, brown and white horses. The Lord reminded me about reading your post at the time! It seems to me that much of what we are looking at in the world today can be related to what Zechariah wrote about, particularly chapters 12, 13, and 14, and so I thought this might be helpful in some way to you.
Blessings,
Judith

Hi,
There are many who say the horse of Revelation 6.2 is not Christ coming. A revelation given me many years ago was that it was. However, until the Spirit of Revelation reveals what the Spirit is saying to you, it is not necessarily the best thing to take anyone's particular interpretation. Someone I know saw an incredible thing in the sky. In the midst of lightning and thunder he saw the Lord coming with three extremely muscled horses. He is a very good artist and I have the orginal black and white pencil drawing.
Rita

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